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Post by wha on Jul 17, 2008 19:17:08 GMT
We have played one pre season friendly,have got into "ruck's" with town supporters(me included) criticizing our management, and having a go at individual players,come on boys and girls a bit early for all that isn't it.?Lets give our team a chance.there will be plenty of time later on to have a go.or am I missing something?
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Post by villa on Jul 17, 2008 19:42:55 GMT
No - you are not missing anything - you are spot on with everything you say.
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Post by Jim "Convertedeagle" Stewart on Jul 17, 2008 20:33:06 GMT
It strikes me as very odd to start having a pop at the management etc after one pre season.... What good does bemoaning at this stage serve other than to show a lack of faith and respect for what G and N have done so far... Maybe after 6 or 7 league matches then have an opinion but until then, leave it!!!
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Post by davidb on Jul 17, 2008 21:19:49 GMT
If this is what we are going to get after the very first pre-season friendly then I dread to think what it is going to be like once the season proper starts and (oh dear) we lose a few games: "Sack The Board", "Sack The Management", "Why Aren't We Spending Money" etc. etc.
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Post by chillic on Jul 17, 2008 23:47:06 GMT
does seem to be a lot of negativity here after the first match. seems a bit odd that people are so quick to judge the staff and players. this is going to be a long hard season and we'll need people getting behind the team and making this season enjoyable. Last thing we need are so called "supporters" jumping on the teams back after one game.
we've managed to get ourselves into the conf prem. we're arguably probable favourites to go down bearing in mind the level of opposition we're facing this season, lets try to enjoy it whilst it lasts, and maybe a bit of support for the team might help us stay at this level for a while.
COME ON BORO! *raises fist to the air*
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Post by robmarks on Jul 18, 2008 7:29:02 GMT
does seem to be a lot of negativity here after the first match. seems a bit odd that people are so quick to judge the staff and players. this is going to be a long hard season and we'll need people getting behind the team and making this season enjoyable. Last thing we need are so called "supporters" jumping on the teams back after one game. we've managed to get ourselves into the conf prem. we're arguably probable favourites to go down bearing in mind the level of opposition we're facing this season, lets try to enjoy it whilst it lasts, and maybe a bit of support for the team might help us stay at this level for a while. COME ON BORO! *raises fist to the air* Great post mate.
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Post by jk on Jul 18, 2008 7:31:29 GMT
I am amazed at the negative attitude shown by some people on here towards the players and management after ONE friendly. In fact I find the whole situation quite embarrassing and I can only think that people from other clubs who we are to play this season looking at this must be rubbing their hands with glee about the negativity shown by our 'fans' after 90 minutes of one friendly.
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Post by neillgb on Jul 18, 2008 11:46:23 GMT
does seem to be a lot of negativity here after the first match. seems a bit odd that people are so quick to judge the staff and players. this is going to be a long hard season and we'll need people getting behind the team and making this season enjoyable. Last thing we need are so called "supporters" jumping on the teams back after one game. we've managed to get ourselves into the conf prem. we're arguably probable favourites to go down bearing in mind the level of opposition we're facing this season, lets try to enjoy it whilst it lasts, and maybe a bit of support for the team might help us stay at this level for a while. COME ON BORO! *raises fist to the air* Spot on, although I am very confident we will be fine in the Conf Prem. Lets tell it as it was at the Town 'friendly'. Borough humiliated the Town side for 45 minutes, the ref was laughing as was Atkin. In first 45 minutes we would of had 2 nailed on penalties and one probable in a proper game. The penalties were not given because the ref felt it would have turned the game into a farce. If the the same team had played in the second 45 the score would have been 5/6 nil, not allowing for the charitable decisions by the ref. Probably be 10 nil with serious decisions. GW decided to change things around in the second half and frankly Borough were crap. But ONLY because Borough treaty the whole game as a training exercise. Are people actually stupid enough to take the second half seriously!!?? Do you really think such changes would have been made if the game had been taken seriously? Not even close to legal in a proper game for gawds sake. Based on Tuesday night I have a prediction. Borough will finish higher in the BSP than Town will in the Ryman south.
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Post by jay on Jul 18, 2008 12:16:37 GMT
yeah but we drew with a team 3 leagues down from us !
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Post by hailshamjay on Jul 18, 2008 12:26:08 GMT
yeah but we drew with a team 3 leagues down from us ! In a pre season testamonial ! Did you actually go jay ? As already stated, the 2nd half team was nothing like the team put out in the 1st 45 and in all honesty, if we had kept the starting 11, we would have got 7 or 8... Stop stressing about a pointless pre season friendly.
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Post by jay on Jul 18, 2008 13:11:21 GMT
arrrh yes i did son
and the facts are we drew.
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Post by Andrew Raeburn on Jul 18, 2008 13:38:08 GMT
arrrh yes i did son and the facts are we drew. Jay, you're clearly not cut out for football management! Results in pre-season friendlies don't matter a jot - the first one is always about getting players fit. Two seasons ago Boro finished just outside the play-offs in Conference South and yet in the same season were beaten 1-0 in the FA Cup by Haverhill Rovers - a team much further down the pyramid than Eastbourne Town are now. But they were still alright in the league.
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Post by jay on Jul 18, 2008 13:49:09 GMT
yes i know i know all bout getting the squad on a run around but i think we should of been okay at 4~0 up.
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Post by Jim "Convertedeagle" Stewart on Jul 18, 2008 14:04:41 GMT
we were fine at 4-0 up jay BUT the idea of friedlies is to let management tinker about when there is nothing at stake!!!! or maybe you would rather win all the friendlies 8-0 and then wonder why players struggle to gel when needed to play out of position!!!
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Post by Andrew Raeburn on Jul 18, 2008 14:50:17 GMT
Which is why Armstrong played 45 minutes at right-back. Surely better to risk it in a meaningless game (result-wise) than have to try it during an FA Cup first round game because someone's injured.
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Post by Jim "Convertedeagle" Stewart on Jul 18, 2008 18:22:54 GMT
My point exactly Andrew...I trust we wont have an entire season agreeing with each other!! ;D
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Post by seano on Jul 18, 2008 18:46:33 GMT
Yes, you are missing the pionts. Especially at this level.
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Post by snellbert on Jul 19, 2008 7:55:21 GMT
i think what jay is trying to say is 'if you are 4-0 up in a friendly and you make that many changes when your playing against a team considerably lower done the leagues, the players that come on should still be able to do the buisness'. I think, he was as a lot of us were dissappointed and little surprised at what happened in the second half.
As for playing players out of position,i think most people who have any idea about football know that these situations do arise,injuries and sending offs usually the main reasons.
I agree with a lot of the things you say on here andrew,you make a lot of sense to me. However playing paul armstrong at right back! WHY? armo is probably the first name down on 99% of boro fans team sheets, he plays in the middle of the park and is bloomin good at it. why move your best player out of position whatever the situation,even if you have plenty of cover in the middle,use one of those, leave the core of the team alone, surely there must be someone else who could make an emergency right back (any suggestions) i guess the reason for it was because ben austen is unfortunately prone to injuries
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Post by maz on Jul 19, 2008 10:42:09 GMT
i think what jay is trying to say is 'if you are 4-0 up in a friendly and you make that many changes when your playing against a team considerably lower done the leagues, the players that come on should still be able to do the buisness'. I think, he was as a lot of us were dissappointed and little surprised at what happened in the second half. As for playing players out of position,i think most people who have any idea about football know that these situations do arise,injuries and sending offs usually the main reasons. I agree with a lot of the things you say on here andrew,you make a lot of sense to me. However playing paul armstrong at right back! WHY? armo is probably the first name down on 99% of boro fans team sheets, he plays in the middle of the park and is bloomin good at it. why move your best player out of position whatever the situation,even if you have plenty of cover in the middle,use one of those, leave the core of the team alone, surely there must be someone else who could make an emergency right back (any suggestions) i guess the reason for it was because ben austen is unfortunately prone to injuries perhaps he wanted Armo to get a full 90 minutes and with putting the two new signings in he couldnt fit in midfield . Does it matter if he played left back, right back or right wing. Preseason games are to get the players match fit first and foremost which you cant get from normal training. These matches are training sessions up to full fitness and some are ahead of others due to injuries holidays etc.
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