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Post by cookie on Dec 7, 2013 23:11:07 GMT
Just a rumour and a couple of overheard conversations at town and the lane in the last two weeks but could it ever happen ??
Eastbourne FC - play at the Lane and use the oval for the ressies and youth? Give the Saffrons back the County cricket?
One team - 1000 at least for home games ?
Play in black red yellow?
100,000 people in the town all supporting/sponsoring the same goal - league football...
Thoughts??
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Post by goonerboy on Dec 7, 2013 23:44:01 GMT
Believe me it will never happen.
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Post by cookie on Dec 8, 2013 9:20:54 GMT
Believe me it will never happen. Why? |
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Post by wha on Dec 8, 2013 10:32:20 GMT
Well in times of Austerity I think anything could happen.Can't say I have heard anything but then I don't move in the same circles.!! Thinking about this I wonder how United might feel if this was a serious proposal.My view would be never say never,and the more I think about it it could be a goer.It was certainly disappointing to see the numbers at the Lane yesterday particularly as Tommy has put together the best squad we have seen for a very long time.Couple this with the re organised youth section and the academy we have a professional set up that a few years ago we could have only dreamed about.It's no secret that we along with other clubs at our level our finding it very tough financially though we came close to "some security" with "The Arabs".Anything that secures our lot as we look to the future has to be worth looking at.As I say never say never.
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Post by maz on Dec 8, 2013 11:00:41 GMT
The Oval is owned by the Council I think and they would still want rent to use the facilities and what would Town bring to the table apart from some support and maybe some sponsorship. Can't see it happening
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Post by cookie on Dec 8, 2013 11:29:05 GMT
Well in times of Austerity I think anything could happen.Can't say I have heard anything but then I don't move in the same circles.!! Thinking about this I wonder how United might feel if this was a serious proposal.My view would be never say never,and the more I think about it it could be a goer.It was certainly disappointing to see the numbers at the Lane yesterday particularly as Tommy has put together the best squad we have seen for a very long time.Couple this with the re organised youth section and the academy we have a professional set up that a few years ago we could have only dreamed about.It's no secret that we along with other clubs at our level our finding it very tough financially though we came close to "some security" with "The Arabs".Anything that secures our lot as we look to the future has to be worth looking at.As I say never say never. Exactly!!! 470 at the lane was v poor yesterday I don't think utd have been approached yet but the chairman did allegedly go a bit pale when it was mentioned a while back. They want to go ryman but can anyone see them going higher ? And I understand the tradition etc as my dad played for them under Ron Greenwood And Gordon Jago in the glory days of the Isthmian league . But wouldn't it better to have one successful club than 3 mediocre ones ? Imagine the amount of youth players coming through to the ressies and first team. The reserves could play in county one or even ryman to feed the front side too! At the moment I'm coaching 18 s that go off to ryman football Lewes or Burgess hill when they get to 19 - we need somewhere for them to go. The county league is declining every year with teams and standard and with utd going up and Town getting relegated next year would be ideal as the would both be in county one! |
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Post by drummerboy on Dec 8, 2013 12:53:46 GMT
Just to set the record strait with regard to attendances yesterday in our league.
10 matches played, average attendance ........443.......(It,s that time of year)!!!!!
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Post by Jim "Convertedeagle" Stewart on Dec 8, 2013 13:31:47 GMT
But wouldn't it better to have one successful club than 3 mediocre ones ? Surely that should read on very successful club rather than one successful and 2 other also rans?   |
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Post by clavius on Dec 8, 2013 14:42:52 GMT
i remember when langney sports were regarded as the fred in the shed club by its neighbours years ago, my how things have changed. i could not imagine the town and united boards merging with boroughs to any good effect. And i dont think a 3 way tie up would make a eastbourne football league club a more distinct possiibility.
Boroughs status has been achieved by a lot of hard work and carefully calibrated decisions.
If the fare on view continues at the level of yesterday then why would we want to change things?
If it aint broke, dont try and fix it.
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Post by cookie on Dec 8, 2013 15:49:54 GMT
But wouldn't it better to have one successful club than 3 mediocre ones ? Surely that should read on very successful club rather than one successful and 2 other also rans? I thought it wouldn't take long for someone to spot that Jim!  |
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Post by cookie on Dec 8, 2013 15:58:37 GMT
i remember when langney sports were regarded as the fred in the shed club by its neighbours years ago, my how things have changed. i could not imagine the town and united boards merging with boroughs to any good effect. And i dont think a 3 way tie up would make a eastbourne football league club a more distinct possiibility. Boroughs status has been achieved by a lot of hard work and carefully calibrated decisions. If the fare on view continues at the level of yesterday then why would we want to change things? If it aint broke, dont try and fix it. I remember those days too clavius and I also remember Langney sports changing their name.... I can't imagine the boards merging either but if the alternative is 50 people at the saffs watching park football or the county league packing up I can see them considering it. And why would a 3 way tie up make it less likely to get a team in the league? Boro's budget is a lot less than whitehawks 12,000 a week so the sponsorship going to one pot would help that. And if only 500 go to the lane every 2 weeks then the budget will be less next year. So the fare served up May not be good for ever.... |
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Post by clavius on Dec 8, 2013 19:05:43 GMT
I think you either have to accept that TW has turned the clubs fortunes around or not. I think it is a no brainer, a younger more dynamic side with some really great players coming through and the ones that we always knew were good are actually now very good indeed. I wont kid you, I suspected that like a couple of other posters (who dont seem to be posting anymore) that TW would turn the team into a collection of journeymen, here today gone tommorrow, but I accept that he has done exactly what he was brought in to do, and lets be honest...how many people forsaw us doing so well? honestly?
so my point is why change it by allowing a couple of teams to merge with the club? I think you make some good points cookie and you are closer to the inner workings of the club than I am so I accept your opinions. However I would only personally accept a merger if it was clear that the unique identity of the club was maintained, not diluted and certainly no name change, not again that would be bordering on farcial!
Getting into the football league will only be achieved with a certain mentality and for the fans a sense of belonging in order to continually turn up and boost the gates. If I was a town or united fan I think I would be a little cynical about the new merged clubs balance. I dont think it can happen although I accept that anything is possible in football.
As for whitehawk, they are symbolistic of what is wrong with football at all levels, money being pumped in with absolutely no chance of sustainability. If they go back down then I fear that would be it for the backers, and with the inevitable exodus of players they would quickly slip back into obscurity, I hope not, it is good for us to have a little local competition as well as lewes.
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Post by cookie on Dec 8, 2013 20:15:56 GMT
I think you either have to accept that TW has turned the clubs fortunes around or not. I think it is a no brainer, a younger more dynamic side with some really great players coming through and the ones that we always knew were good are actually now very good indeed. I wont kid you, I suspected that like a couple of other posters (who dont seem to be posting anymore) that TW would turn the team into a collection of journeymen, here today gone tommorrow, but I accept that he has done exactly what he was brought in to do, and lets be honest...how many people forsaw us doing so well? honestly? so my point is why change it by allowing a couple of teams to merge with the club? I think you make some good points cookie and you are closer to the inner workings of the club than I am so I accept your opinions. However I would only personally accept a merger if it was clear that the unique identity of the club was maintained, not diluted and certainly no name change, not again that would be bordering on farcial! Getting into the football league will only be achieved with a certain mentality and for the fans a sense of belonging in order to continually turn up and boost the gates. If I was a town or united fan I think I would be a little cynical about the new merged clubs balance. I dont think it can happen although I accept that anything is possible in football. As for whitehawk, they are symbolistic of what is wrong with football at all levels, money being pumped in with absolutely no chance of sustainability. If they go back down then I fear that would be it for the backers, and with the inevitable exodus of players they would quickly slip back into obscurity, I hope not, it is good for us to have a little local competition as well as lewes. I think TW has changed a lot from last year definitely . I don't think another name change would be a problem at all either. I do think that if you don't change it the the other fans would be even more cynical . It's a good point about fans turning up and supporting when they have a sense of belonging but we all shout "come on Eastbourne" don't we? I've been at Langney and boro as a player and now a coach but also at town as both too . I just think for the benefit of everyone if would be a good idea. Whitehawk won't last the same as newhaven or stamco didn't in the old days- win a few medals then get bored . Good debate though ! |
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Post by Colin 'Trigger' Potter on Dec 9, 2013 6:03:45 GMT
Like others, i really can't see this happening but it would make sense on the whole. If there was only 1 senior team maybe the council could get behind the towns' football team rather than hiding behind the 'don't want to show bias' approach. We've seen what having the local council behind the team can do ..... Dartford, lewes etc it makes a difference.
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Post by Andrew Raeburn on Dec 9, 2013 11:43:39 GMT
Agree with Marc about "never say never" - after all, no-one could have foreseen the merger between Hayes and Yeading. Their relationship was frostier than the one Borough shares with its two cousins across town AND they were playing in the same division. But pragmatism won the day and they've vastly improved their fortunes ever since.
However, I'm broadly with Clavius. I don't think it'll actually do much for Borough that can't be done with a bit of long-term planning.
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Post by cookie on Dec 9, 2013 13:27:03 GMT
Agree with Marc about "never say never" - after all, no-one could have foreseen the merger between Hayes and Yeading. Their relationship was frostier than the one Borough shares with its two cousins across town AND they were playing in the same division. But pragmatism won the day and they've vastly improved their fortunes ever since. However, I'm broadly with Clavius. I don't think it'll actually do much for Borough that can't be done with a bit of long-term planning. Good point re Hayes and yeading. I can't see why it wouldn't be better to have one club. The massive difference would be every single young footballer feeding into one club ! Huge that is! |
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Post by benny on Dec 9, 2013 14:05:51 GMT
Don't know how you can compare Hayes & Yeading United with an average gate of 153 !!!!!!!
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Post by TheBoroLad on Dec 9, 2013 16:44:57 GMT
Think i would rather keep the name Eastbourne Borough - has a nice ring to it and its the name we have all grown to love
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Post by classic1 on Dec 9, 2013 17:30:49 GMT
I have been a season ticket holder for many years but only this season as a poster,
I must be in a different location to some as in the main stand and near its always up the borough or come on borough! But I would certainly rather stay as we are, faith in our staff and players and vocal support will take us back up again and hopefully the crowds will come back.Tommy goes right up in my book for sticking with us and his team. Anyway its dead in the water as a proposition!
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Post by Andrew Raeburn on Dec 9, 2013 20:39:55 GMT
Don't know how you can compare Hayes & Yeading United with an average gate of 153 !!!!!!! That has less to do with the merger and more to do with the fact they're playing in Woking, a round trip of nearly 40 miles for every home game. |
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